English Club Chatter

I'm wondering why the name change for "Immaculate Cauldron"? I understand revamping and upgrading the journal, but changing the name of a long standing journal seems unnecessary. When you do such a thing, you are affecting the journal's history and those that had the vision to create the journal in the first place. It is like trying to change your first born's name after 5 years of birth. The "Immaculate Cauldron" is known not only to those currently involved, but those of the past and students from other colleges. I feel it would be a terrible mistake to change the name of the journal. A great number of months and students were involved with the beginning creation of "Immaculate Cauldron" when it was just a good idea. Changing the name would be a discredit to all the painstaking moments it took to bring "Immaculate Cauldron" to life. To take its' name away would essentially bring the journal to a final resting place. Obviously I do not have a say in the matter, but I hope and pray that before a decision is made to change the name of a long standing journal, you consider its' history and those who founded the journal.

That makes sense. I was part of the team that put the first edition together, and I know how much work went into getting this off the ground. I'm proud of the work that we did. That being said, as far as I know, only two people among us were keen on the name Immaculate Cauldron. As I recall, we never actually voted on it, and many of us expressed our disdain for the name. Nonetheless, there it was.

I have no qualms in changing the name. I also think children should have temporary names until they earn a name that suits them. I have no children, but it has worked for my cats.

I too was involved in the original, and I clearly recall that I and my co-editor put in about ten times more effort than anyone else to bring "Immaculate Cauldron" to birth. Otherwise, this blog would likely not exist. The title, from one of Sylvia Plath's more powerful poems, "The Couriers," was suggested by me, and WAS voted upon at an publicly annnounced, well-attended meeting, winning by a substantial margin.
I don't recall criticism, although--OSU-M being a university, I am sure there were critics aplenty, to go with the smaller group of creators.. Anyway, Jacki Spangler, long term editor of Marion OSU's "Cornfield Review" liked the LIVELINESS of our title so much that she said she wished to change the longstanding but rather drab name of that journal. Is the journal now called simply "Cauldron"? If so, you've already robbed the democratically chosen title's natural dynamism. Nonetheless, good luck.

It seems like naming something can be one of the hardest things to do. Ever since the idea of a name changes was thrown out, there hasn't been much agreement.

Someone suggests something...but someone else hates it. Another idea is thrown out, but that won't work either. It seems impossible to please everyone with any decisions made about something like this.

However, we move forward. A student-ran publication has great potential. Every year should be a challenge to raise the bar and come up with something new. Of course, none of that would be possible without the hard work of those who came before.

The changes that are being suggested and implemented aren't meant as a slap to those who helped create what we have, but as a way to achieve what could be.

I would like to point out that it wasn't simply a couple of us that decided we didn't like the name and wanted to change it. We talked to numerous people, students and faculty alike, and the overwhelming consensus was that a name change was in order. While I can understand how some might view the change as undermining the work of others before us, isn't the existence of a published journal with all the names of those who put it together posterity enough? There is a completely new group of people working on it this year, and we're practically doing it from scratch, so it seems as though our labors entitle us to make it ours in the same way those before us have done.

The Cauldron is the working title right now. The name might not change at all, because there haven't been suggestions that have gelled. Whatever we end up with will be democratically chosen and have a good deal of thought put into it. It did occur to me that the name change might confuse people or upset some, so I would be more than happy (I'm sure others will be too) to put in a blurb about the history of the journal, including the orginators and its appelations (someone told it was once also called the Cornfield Review, is this correct?). Our intentions are neither to slap the originators in the face or erase their hard work, but I think it's a bit unrealistic to expect it not to evolve over the years when new people are involved every year.

So Steve lives. Of course you guys put in the majority of the work, and you did an outstanding job. Those of us who were asked to do anything did so, but it truly wasn't our baby. I remember the vote now, and you're right it was publicly announced and well attended. Who were we to vote down what you wanted, since, as you say, you and Tina did most of the work. So it was a vote in that respect.

I agree with Howard that renaming it is unecessary, but I maintain that I have no qualms with the name change, and I will continue to contribute material in order to help keep it alive. Democracy is an agent of dynamism, and if someone like Jacki Spangler might desire to change the drab name of their journal, then are these students somehow lesser for considering their own change?
We used to call the Akron Beacon Journal the Leakin Urinal, which seems kind compared to what I have heard our journal called.

Hey Jim: Alive as long as the Library of Congess is! You distorted the "remembered" reality of that title-selection vote. Other than a meeting with Dr. McGovern to discuss the feasibility of a journal for the following academic year, nobody had performed any real work at that point (Spring, 2000). We decided that the selection of a title would be a good first step, to give the then-nonexistent journal a type of "presence." Tina was not even my co-editor at that time; that would, thankfully, come several months later, when the real work would begin (a real slave-driver, that girl!) Furthermore, "Immaculate Cauldron" was in no way connected to me. At the open meeting, attended by maybe a dozen English Club members, we voted from a list of about a half-dozen ANONYMOUSLY NOMINATED potential titles. No "lobbying" took place. "Immaculate Cauldron" won easily--thankfully (for the journal), OSU-M then had many poetically inclined students. Finally, the phrase itself, with clashing connotative symbolic imagery that only a blankly unpoetic mind could fail to appreciate, is not mine. It belongs to, again, Sylvia Plath--no near relation of the Akron Newspaper or of the people who denigrate the titles either of it or of the OSU-M journal, which I am joyed to see lives on.

You must be right. I must have factual memory fused with innuendo. That's pretty much before my time. I might be thinking of some other piece of business. And yes I do remember a few students (like you; unlike me)who showed some promise in writing poetry.

I did buy your touring book for my brother-in-law for Christmas one year. I assume you've had poetry published, but I haven't been able to find it. I'm sure that's because you, unlike Plath, are more interested in personal integrity and gaining respect for your work rather than just making sure everyone knows your name.

So, sorry about the sketchy memory concerning the voting process. I guess lots of people just liked to joke about it without hurting other people's feelings. Darn those blankly unpoetic minds.

I did enjoy the description the origin of the name, "clashing connotative symbolic imagery", which is sure a fancy way of saying that the connotations, symbols, and imagery exist, but offers (once again) no indication of what the connotations, symbols, and imagery might represent. Sure has a liveliness to it though, and that's important. Just ask Plath.

See, now I'm just having fun, and that's not fair to you. Really I love the journal. Don't care for the name, but I have nothing better to offer. I liked "The Lanthorn" but there you go. Honestly, I don't remember it the way you do, but I'll go with your version because you were so invested in it, and I don't think I was involved with much in Spring 2000. Plus if there was food or certain people present, I probably wasn't paying attention. So thank you for setting the record straight, and my apologies to all for the confusion.

Jim, I think I love you.

It's great to see so much love in the air!

It's up to you folks of course, but it seems to me that the journal is not so much a fixed institution bound to its traditions, but a project of, by, and for the current students. If it doesn't serve them, I'm not sure it has much point. (After all, it's not likely that scholars or writers decades from now will be poring over old issues. It's a publication for the here-and-now, I think.)

So it seems to me that the journal can be called whatever the current contributors and editors want it to be called. For the record, I'm one of those who has always felt "Immaculate Cauldron" was an odd title, but then I'm not much of a fan of Sylvia Plath either.

At the same time, as a number of you have said, no one wants to diminish the achievements of the journal's early editors or deny the debt to them for starting it up. With this in mind, whatever title you decide on, why not include (perhaps front or back cover?) a paragraph on the history of the journal, describing how it started as well as its original title?

I think I love Jim, too! Fanciful phrasing acknowledged1

I deny that anyone had the right to change the title to begin with. The subjective value of it is a moot point. As to any faculty and students supporting a name change, those who were here in 2000 had a chance to participate in the name selection (I recall at least one faculty member nominating a title). For them to call for a name change after that is entirely out of line.

As my last couple postings make clear, we took the naming of the journal very seriously--it was our initial group effort, and for a carefully considered reason.

One thing that none of you can know, but which the first journal (first two in Tina's case)will amply demonstrate, is how seriously we took the continuity of the journal--it would have been far easier to have ignored that concept. It was we, with Dr. McGovern's generous help, who secured the funding, thus setting another important precedent for those who followed, and ensured its continuance by putting out a quality journal that received nothing but praise, including from those who had made the funding decision.

Only when we knew that we had succeeded, could we write this on the title page (title pages of course containing the "official" information about a publication): "This is the premiere issue of 'Immaculate Cauldron' an annual publication of the English Department and English Club at the Ohio State University at Mansfield."

In short, if you are publishing an annual literary journal with a continuity back to 2001, under the auspices of the English Department and/or English Club, and funded by OSU-Mansfield, your journal is, by a definition made official back in 2001, titled IMMACULATE CAULDRON.

So--why isn't it? I think I can speak for Tina in saying we care far less--not at all, actually--about the type of historical "blurb" suggested above that in the integrity of the title. After posting this, I am seeking legal advice because although I know the title change does not fit any of the usual definitions of plaigarism, it sure smells like it to me.

How about maybe just a symbol (or connotation) and the monicker "The Journal Formerly Known As Immaculate Cauldron"

Besides, continuity wise, I don't think this has been an annual publication.

I agree though, this sure smells like something.

You'll find a link by clicking on my name that shows that many "long standing" publications change their names. It's part of growth and change. I would also hardly call 5 years "long standing."

If Steven is so attached to the name, I say we let him have it, cancel The Immaculate Cauldron Publication as it exists now, and begin a new publication that has no ties or reference to the past publication.

Whie such an extreme action might not be necessary, I think it would make all parties happy. Steven can have The Immaculate Cauldron, get the old gang together and start publishing again. We can move on and get a name we are all more fond of. I must admit that I never knew what the title stood for or where it came from, apparently I'm a philistine, and my poetry most likely has no worth. In fact, I'm not certain I (or any of the other "blankly unpoetic minds" at OSU-M) deserve to have our works published in a Journal with such a rich, long-standing history that has gained such respect in the Literary Community.

Anyway, I've enjoyed The Immaculate Cauldron as a publication of students' work. It provides an opportunity many students may never have again, and that's something for anyone who has ever been involved in the production to be proud of. In contrast, it took several explanations for me to even get what The Immaculate Cauldron is when I first heard about it. I'm sure that the name at the time of it's creation in ye olden days meant a great deal to everyone involved in the creation of it, and truly spoke to the young genius minds reading it, but unfortunately, the literary quality of today's youth has apparently dropped and the name doesn't speak to those of us working on it today.

And so, from the bottom of my heart, my apologies to you, Steven. I am deeply humbled that you are dedicated enough to keep a close eye over the name of your baby even though whatever great things you are doing with yourself these days keep you from spending anytime with it.

Oh for heaven's sake!!! Legal advice? Steve, don't you have something better to do, or are you spending to much time on TV watching Boston Legal? If you've been so passionately attached to "The Immaculate Cauldron," and its long tradition, where have you been all these many years?

This is a student journal, featuring student writing, put together by and for students at OSU-Mansfield. Period. It is NOT your personal property or legacy. If you want to try to persuade the current editors and contributors to stick with the original title, and you can do so civilly, fine. If you can't muster a persuasive argument, or you can't control your temper, you can't expect to be taken seriously. I say this not as an exercise of advisory authority (the title, like the rest of the journal, is up to the students), but just to point out the obvious. Also to tell current students not to be alarmed by your bluster.

Let me encourage those of you who have already posted to continue the discussion, and those of you who haven't to join in. Don't worry about silly posturing about lawsuits. The question at hand is the one Trish posed -- do you like the current title, or can you think of one you prefer?

I am partial to the title "OSU Mansfield Literary Journal for the year 2007." It speaks to everyone, I think. Or maybe "Trish is Awesome."

so this is an interesting blog.

I've got new titles--no scratch that I've got titles for the NEW Literary Journal at OSU-M. I think they might catch a few off gaurd--but then make us think a little bit more poetically... so we can write/read better poultry..i mean poetry... der. Sometimes I dont know the differance.

"l agree though, this sure smells like something"

" the title, just like the rest of the journal, is up to the students"

"Only when we knew that we had succeeded, could we write this on the title page"

" WE'VE already robbed the democratically chosen title's natural dynamism"

"we voted from a list of about a half-dozen ANONYMOUSLY NOMINATED potential titles"

"clashing connotative symbolic imagery"

"We killed the other journal, we thought it was a clown"

"Jim, I think I love you."

While some of the titles may seem long, I think in the midst of things they could work. How about 12 of us get together and vote for one--mathmatically that makes sence.

Nic,

I can comfortably say that except for a very few people involved, the title (any title) was not all that important and that the term "immaculate Cauldron" meant little to most of us as well.

We were psyched about getting the journal out when we first heard it was a possibility. We had a ton of submissions, and it was truly difficult narrowing it down to what we could afford to print. We had to wrestle with other notions of integrity, such as whether to be all inclusive or to limit the publication to only those pieces of work that the editors voted in. I was for integrity, but the powers that be went the other way, so we sacrificed our souls and let anyone in who submitted.

We had quite a colony of students interested in writing during those years. We had a creative writing group that met weekly, and the conversations in the Writing Center generally centered around writing.

Competition in the Florence B Allen contest was important to many of us, and that just raised the bar. Trust me, it was an important competition in our environment. I had to wait for people to graduate before I had a chance in any of the categories, and I wanted to win.

I understand completely where Steve is coming from, and I want to add that he is an outstanding poet and writer. He's had a couple of books published and has had poetry published in numerous publications. His co-editor, Tina Barber (don't know if she's changed her name since marriage), is also a talented writer both of poetry and prose and was commited to the atmosphere of writing of which she was a leading force. She worked particularly hard, sometimes frustratingly so (for reasons I won't go into here), to get the first journal published.

My hunch is that most of us still don't find the title (any title) to be as important as that which it represents. I'm not married to the title we have used in the past, but I am monogamous in my desire that this journal continues to be and to be a meaningful outlet for the creativity of students both present and past.

It's not any easy call for me, even though I have gotten tired of trying to explain the inexplicable to people who basically ask wt# Immaculate Cauldron means. "I don't know" I say, "some sort of nonsense about frost on a leaf talking and crackling all to itself on the top of each of nine black Alps." "Where can we find someone to explain it to us?" they might ask. "I don't know, the drama queen killed herself and left a bunch of serious people trying to make meaning out of some minor poem about messengers. So, naturally, that is the notion we want to represent us." "Shouldn't it be about more than just some words that sound swell?" "You'ld think so. You'ld think so."

I vote for Natural Dynamism. I think it sounds enough like Napolean Dynamite to be relevant to you kids, and, hey it was Steve's own words.

My second choice is Jim, I Think I Love You
because that effectively ties the past (me) with the present (Trish).

And the one I like best We Killed The Other Journal, We Though It Was A Clown

Too #'n #unny!

Honestly, I can't stop laughing. That is the funniest thing I've read all year. We thought it was a clown roflmfaoapjal

Oh my goodness, I had no idea that my original post would cause so much frustration from students and alumni! I'm sorry for that, or maybe not. A good debate between past and present can be great if kept civil.
Allow me to properly introduce myself, my name is Tina Howard, yes Jim the name changed from Barber after marriage.
I must confess that I have been keeping tabs on "Immaculate Cauldron" and OSU-M since I graduated in 2003. I even still receive the English Club emails. Call it crazy, but it is what it is. I stayed quiet for several years watching the English Club grow and things change from meetings to movie nights, to whatever. All of this is wonderful.
Now it really needs to be said to Nic, this is directed straight to you buddy from your comment "I am deeply humbled that you are dedicated enough to keep a close eye over the name of your baby even though whatever great things you are doing with yourself these days keep you from spending anytime with it." To set the record straight, I am the one who tracked Steve down at EMU to let him know about what was going on, so to answer your question Nic, he did have more important things going on. As for me, yes I do keep a close eye on "Immaculate Caulrdon" When you put as much time and effort into something as we did, you want it to succeed and grow, but exist is the most important thing! I wanted more than anything for "IC to exist in whatever form. You may laugh if you want to, but I was a single mother putting myself through college at the time, and to climb that mountain was enough, but to help students out and give them an outlet for their amazing writing talents, that took what felt like a lifetime to complete. So I am proud to say Nic, I still care about my former college, "IC", the English Club, and watching it grow and change through the years. I wouldn't have put forth the effort and there would not be an "IC" to debate about if there weren't a group of students who care like I still do. That's what makes something great and exist!

we have to vote first Jim. AND this is student ran....

Sorry for such the long post, but I felt I really needed to get all that out of the way before tackling this whole name change thing.
I still take the view that a name change is unnecessary. However, I do have a biased opinion, as do all of you. Jim and Steve are correct in saying that the name was voted on and "Immaculate Cauldron" did win hands down. With that being said maybe it doesn't fit those who are a part of "IC" today. I liked the idea of at least keeping a bit of history with "IC" on one of the covers. An idea that I had was what if the name changed every time a new person took over the role as Managing Editor, every 2-4 years or so? I say this for a coule of reasons: 1. If the current name isn't working for those directly involved now, who is to say the new name will be so perfect that when the next staff of students takes over it will work for them?
2. Along those same lines, I know how it feels to put your own personal stamp on the journal having created the first 2, wouldn't it be great to give the current students something like that, like payment for their hard work, being able to revive the long lasting journal by creating a new name. It could be something for students to look forward to when they gain control of the journal, the renaming ceremony.
3. Along more selfish lines, I think it would set better with those involved with the beginning if it was an ever changing name, not something that was changed once.
We can't be nieve and say that this name changing subject won't come up again whether or not the powers that be come up with a resolution. I don't think that having a cycled or revolving name would take away from the journal. I think that more than ever, it would show how versitile and dynamic the student body at OSU-M is and will be in the future. After all, the journal is student ran with little compensation; what better way to get students involved than by having the excitement of a newly reborn journal.
Just one more thing, with this idea, like Hamlin said in an earlier post, the history should be included on one of the covers. It would be nice in 10 years to see all the name changes and how they were relevent at one point and not at another.
So, I guess to make a long post end, I am for not changing the name at all, but if so, a tenured for so many publications name would be ok.
One more thing, I've seen a number of posts about this topic, whether to keep the name or not, but other than Jim's comedic suggestions (you always knew how to bring comedy in the air) I haven't seen any other suggestions. If there is such a great demand for a name change, I would like to hear some opinions! :-}
Happy debating!

Tina, I do have a sincere apology for you. The comment was directed at the fact that Steven feels the need to belittle those of us who are here working in The English Club and on The Immaculate Cauldron today.

"Finally, the phrase itself, with clashing connotative symbolic imagery that only a blankly unpoetic mind could fail to appreciate, is not mine."

I happen to believe I do not have a "blankly unpoetic mind." I am proud enough of my writing that I have submitted to The Immaculate Cauldron in the past. The abrasive tone of my post is directed at Steve for what I find to be an insulting attitude towards those of us who want to take something great that was passed on to us, and make it a little bit our own. Instead of maintaining some type of false reverence to the past, isn't it more important for the longevity of the publication to change in whatever ways are necessary to ensure that it doesn't die out on its own from lack of interest.

Tina, I commend you for maintaining your interest in what you've left for us. (again, this is actually nic being sincere)

I take offense that Steven should first insult us and then threaten us. At what point should we keep caring about The Immaculate Cauldron as an entity if we are attacked this way?

I take back the comment,
"I am deeply humbled that you are dedicated enough to keep a close eye over the name of your baby even though whatever great things you are doing with yourself these days keep you from spending anytime with it."
Apparently, he wasn't even paying attention.

Tina, Jim, and all other founding members have my utmost respect for creating a student publication, but not Steven. I will not tolerate insults and threats that are directed at those people who I know have worked hard to keep the publication alive. If they feel that the success of the publication rests on its ability to change over time, they should offer whatever changes they feel are necessary.

It's obviously theoretical, but isn't it more preferable that we should have a 50-year publicatin run that was formerly The Immaculate Cauldron, or continue to watch it decline in interest until we end up with a 12-13 year publication run that was ALWAYS called The Immaculate Cauldron, even to its end?

Nic, aren't you always sincere? Maybe not always compassionate, but I've admired your sincerity as Nic.

Jesi, apparently this is an annual publication of the English Department and English Club, so not necessarily student run.

Tina, boy do I miss you.

Thanks for the apology Nic, I accept. I miss you too Jim! I really miss those Spring quarter days stressing about some English paper with you! The debates we had were wonderful! I never thought we would make it through the "Hank" days! :-}
Nic, Steve really is a great guy, and was not personally attacking any student. I know he was in shock over the whole name change as was I. Before some of the posts, a name change can signify that the previous work was not worthy or great enough to last. I know this is not the case. If you knew Steve you would know that his way of getting things done is to go straight to the TOP and by the MEANING of the book. This jounral was our baby that we tried to mold, caress, and bring into existance, so anything said about it, could at first glance be taken personal.
I think we need to move beyond insults and reading into what people say and realize that if we all would work together we could come up with something great! Don't you think so?

Jim,
You should email me sometime. I would love to know how things are going with you!

Hmm, thanks Tina. I think your reasonable arguments and friendly tone may very well have smoothed things over. Whew!

Having said that, we still need suggestions! We've tossed around a few ideas (I'm still partial to "Trish is Awesome," because, well, really, I don't think anyone can argue with that...) But, like Tina and others have mentioned, it should be something that means something to current students, and unfortunately (for all of you), I won't be here next year.

So, let's see some ideas, folks! I like the idea of something from a poem, but I think something a bit more accessible than Plath would be appropriate. We'll see.

"IC" is not such a bad name. In this age of email and texting where Hemingway would be proud of our minimalism, IC is not really out of place. It also serves as a bridge to the past, and we could have a contest to see who can come up with the best words to represent IC. In that respect it becomes personal for anyone who cares to apply an appelation. So those who like Immaculate Cauldron could still think of it as that or maybe you like its synonym, perhaps, the Indefinable Conundrum. Of course we may have problems with a certain beer company out of Pittsburgh, but probably not from that Posse thing.

Sorry, long way to go for a joke. But I still like "The Lanthorn".

Also, I think one thing that could go into the publication is to have Jesi go through past blogs and find lines that amuse or amaze her. It is a text after all created by members of the English Club. Perhaps we should multimodify.

I am done commenting (um--do I hear sighs of relief? cheers?!) Anyway, I have way too much TV to watch (right). Best wishes!

Steve,

Whether you comment further is up to you. I would like to thank you for helping revive interest in the literary journal that smells as sweet no matter what we call it. It seems we have a number of students interested in filmmaking, and that is the exciting thing going on now, as we are having a film festival in May.

I know the IC means a lot to you in spirit and in name, but let's face it Steve, to the students here now, we're dinosaurs, and our words are ancient artifacts. Six years ago when you started this, a lot of the students here were in the 12-15 age range. So, while a few years may not seem like much to adults without kids, it's a million years ago for these guys.

So good luck with your second Masters, and don't be any stranger. I think they still accept entries for our literary journal from alumni.

We're not *that* young, Jim. I was a bit more than 12, that's for sure, as were the other people who are working on it this year. We're all mature adults here. And I don't think you're a dinosaur, though I've always wanted to ask you about what it was like to drive a horse and buggy places. HA!

Well, adults anyway. You are about half my age, so you're likely still in that mode where years count.

Horses and buggies are completely relevant to my life now more than they were any other time. A lot of people get annoyed having to pass them all the time out here, but I've been trained to think about symbolism, so the merits of slowing down are not lost on me, both on the paved road and the one of life.
Of course what they leave on the road smells a lot like plagiarism.

Can I ever not be a smart ass?

No, but that's precisely why I love you ; )

wow, and i thought the blog was dead!

this is better than jerry springer.

concerning the name of the journal, how about "The Journal Formerly Known As The Immaculate Cauldron?"

it seems the most obvious choice at this point.

I think you've provided an even more obvious choice:

This Is Better Than Jerry Springer

But my legal team has advised me that this is a student run publication, so I have to add this disclaimer. "The previous statement is in no way affiliated with nor representative of the English Department and/or English Club and certainly has nothing to do with their publication, the Immaculate Cauldron, under that title or any title working or otherwise."

Good day.

I'm glad to see everyone is one big happy family again. Sorry for starting this big mess.
Anyways, I really liked Jim's idea of using the letters IC as a contest... that sounds fun! I like "Immediate Constituent" which literally means, any of the meaningful constituents (a structural unit of a definable syntactic, semantic, or phonological category that consists of one or more linguistic elements (as words, morphemes, or features) and that can occur as a component of a larger construction) directly forming a larger linguistic construction (as a phrase or sentence)... now I don't think it gets any more literal than that! Right? Ha-Ha

Ignatius's Confederacy: A Postmodern Diary of Internal Contexts.

"Improper Conception"

That is way more relevant than you will ever know!!!

"Innocent Coercion: Spawning of the Name Change"

True?!

Googling IC reveals the following, which I'm sure you'll find helpful!

Insterstitial Cystitis (perhaps my favorite)
Integrated Circuit
Intentional Communities
Illinois College (maybe not)
Information Center
Industry Canada
IC 1805 (cool -- a double nebula located in the constellation Cassiopeia)
Implementation of Computation
Infection Control
ImageChef

"Ic" was also the first-pronoun ("I") in Old English. Hmmmm.

Imagerial Craft

Illuminate Codex
Illustrious Corpus
Implicit Codpiece
Inappropriate Clishmaclaver

"Inscrutable Contesseration"
"Inscriptive Contignation"
"Insensible Condemnation"
"Inshrined Condescendence"

The Ives

The head of a nail on the pate of a thief?
It is a mime. Darn anesceptic.

A speck of ass spit on a seal's chin?
Darn anise peptic. It is not Genoa wine.

Herring love cold which the sun ain't?
Ice. Ice on Magritte.

Loss of a fief, the imagerial
Craft dun, tall Klingon claiming

All for himself of the cop of each
Of thine bleak alms.

Abe's sister's dance is merry
Thus he shat herring in grey tone--

Flush, flush, nice weasel.

Intensive Care
Integrated Circuit
Intelligence Community
Imperial College
Intelligent Campus
Interpersonal Courtship
Impactful Clamor

Hey Jim-

Doesn't this seem like something we would do at a Creative Writer's Group meeting? :-}

Indecipherable Clone

It's Creative.

I-pod Culture

Iconoclastic Circumlocution

Iffy Coof

Tina,

Remember that spring with that interesting English class we took? That was the only English class in which I got lower than an A-.

Wow, this has certainly blown (in terms of # of posts) since the ast time I logged on. And even though you guys are running with the IC acronym, I still want to share a kind of idea I had that motivated me to get on here and post in the first place. I was trying to think of metaphors that could carry multiple meanings -and not exactly succeeding very well- when it occurred to me that as the name change represents a movement toward the future, and I would hope the purpose many of us have in writing in the first place is to move others, if there wasn't someway we could use that idea of "moving" to create a metaphor that both symbolizees the name change and represents the contents of the book. I'm not so good at naming things (my children will most likely be A, B, C, etc.) but I thought it was an idea that might have merit if any of our many clever and witty word sculptors out there wanted to consider it.

Sure, we can do that.

Ideational Conveyance

i like that idea nic. i think it's really valid.

i'm thinking about it...

Or was it a different kind of movement.

Immanent Colon

Hey, a colon has to do with Englishy stuff, don't it?

wow. so what about just

[untitled]

i think thats relevant to us. I like I.C. to. or just "i"

I like "The Journal Formerly Known as The Immaculate Cauldron," but you could just go with a non-verbal symbol.

See

http://z.about.com/d/altreligion/1/0/h/S/2/stafkap.jpg

Or could Jesi do stylized IC ?

We thought it was a clown!!